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Chinese space propaganda, astronaut spinning pen without touching it

Chinese space propaganda, astronaut spinning pen without touching it

john_shillsburg

SS: this looks like the Chinese are beginning to catch up with NASA now. An obvious AR pen moving weird and spinning without being touched. I'm sure it's just video compression tho, lol jk


FlatteringFlatuance

It's air pressure. That pen weighs close to nothing and the cuffed movement of their hand creates a dynamic that pulls the pen towards the change in pressure along with the air particles. Ever notice if you hold your fingers together and woosh them past your ear there is a rush of air? Same thing, just no gravity.


6Grey9

That slight movement of his hand is not enough to create that kind of air pressure, gravity or not. Maybe that guy is a no-touch knockout master and he used his Qi on the pen?


FlatteringFlatuance

It is though. The air current is catching the end of the pen and spinning it, then the center of is in the middle of the air current and it drifts up losing the spin because both sides of the pen are being pulled on.


6Grey9

Next you tell me they create a hurricane in the shuttle when they blink. Hes barely moving his hand and produces a spin like he would be taking a deep breath and blowing at it. Like i said, it doesnt matter that its less gravitiy, you simply cant generate that kind of air pressure with this slight movement.


FlatteringFlatuance

You really like exaggeration don't you? The pen does like two spins. It's not as though it turned into a spinning death machine. Besides, if this was a case of AR or visual effects wouldn't they have taken the time to fucking make sure he touches the pen "to fool the smart people" like yourself? Come on now...


6Grey9

I never claimed to be smart :( What he would or should have done doesnt really matter if he fucked up, no? Another thing that i wonder at that you are surely able to enlighten me on. If they are already at a hight where there is no gravity (left earths gravitational influence and established orbit) and there is air inside the cockpit, then why are they still wearing their helmets? Just being curious...


FlatteringFlatuance

It's a safety precaution incase something happens that makes them lose cabin pressure. Since they would almost instantly be knocked unconcious by lack of oxygen (and die) and be unable to maintain the ship as best they can. The fact of the matter pretaining to the "fake" pen though, is that they would have corrected the mistake to make it look more "believable" because you wouldn't put all that effort into a fucking mock up and then just shrug your shoulders at a proposed visual effect that obvious.


6Grey9

Thank you for explaining. I dont know why he didnt correct his mistake, maybe they did a live feed to concince anyone intercepting the signal, that was actually rerouted to a satellite and send back to earth while the used augmented reality on the feed in real time.


FlatteringFlatuance

Ok. In that case either A. the footage is real and you refuse to accept the reality of it or B. some really shitty visual effects artist was executed shortly after this mock up.


Castle5G

> The fact of the matter pretaining to the "fake" pen though, is that they would have corrected the mistake to make it look more "believable" because you wouldn't put all that effort into a fucking mock up and then just shrug your shoulders at a proposed visual effect that obvious. Yea yea yea, Unless you are much smarter than the naive audience, and think 33 steps ahead of them. In that absolutely crazy scenario, your mistakes are not mistakes at all, when you are writing the script of the entire show you don't make any mistakes and nothing happens by accident. Therefore, in that situation, things you try to rationalize or see as mistakes, are nothing more than distractions to keep your attention on the dumb pen and keep arguing about it. Oh and the proof of how successful they are, can be seen here. But you most likely will stick to your disconfirmation bias and ignore everything I said. Because of course I am the one gaining so much by lying to you and not those holding the chain around your neck.


FlatteringFlatuance

Or it's a pen, acting normally in a zero gravity environment pulled by an air current. Look we're in a conspiracy sub so I appreciate the skepticism but to say I have a "chain around my neck" for believing that another country besides the US or Russia launched a shuttle craft into space is just fucking stupid. The event has literally no bearing on my life or probably yours for that matter. Or do you think space exploration in itself is fake, and satellites don't actually exist? GPS is wizardry and the earth is flat? Feel free to open my eyes to the 5d chess game they're playing. I'm all ears from here and won't say a thing against it.


be_helpful_

>. Besides, if this was a case of AR or visual effects wouldn't they have taken the time to fucking make sure he touches the pen "to fool the smart people" like yourself? Come on now... Maybe they delibratley made it obvious in this way, so that if people fell for it, they would be absolved of their deception, as viewers allowed themselves to be deceived. Maybe part of the magic means making some clues obvious that it is fake, but when viewers still consent to the illusion, than it becomes magic and not deception


FlatteringFlatuance

That's a possibility. I just don't understand the end-game to all of it. It makes a lot more sense that they'd just be publicizing an actual event, since any foreign agency tied to space programs can pretty much confirm if they actually did have a launch into space. In terms of public knowledge, I don't particularly think it matters either way. but as someone else said I am probably thinking in "2d" and just don't understand why the psyops is happening.


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KosmicJaguar

They do have a history of lying about space. Anyone remember the air bubble video? But yes I think you are probably right, the movement of the hand moved air which moved the pen. I am by no means an expert though.


wbrooksga

This inside of a space ship isn't a vaccum. LMFAO. There is air constantly being circulated and recycled. I can blow this guy's mind with a piece of paper on a desk. Look I can move it without touching it! Very silly.


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the_virtue_of_logic

I'm sure it's just physics.


john_shillsburg

Gravity


the_virtue_of_logic

Take a meter stick to the beach and try to align it with the horizon


CurvySexretLady

Then flip it. Bop it. Twist it. Result: Calculation of Earth's gravity.


EurekaStockade

Chinese cant make a decent toaster. Chinese -made space rockets--what a joke All they've done is prove they've joined the Russians & US in the fake Space Race. Just like they're threatening US with fake nukes--same as Nth Korea did. Soon they'll be telling us that thats how the Chinese spread Corona around the globe. Killer satellites